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dmoz listing Technique

ixeleven
in Linkbuilding
Could anybody specify how can list my site on dmoz. Is there any benchmark or technique. please mention here I am waiting for your positive reply
thanks
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  • menj
    Just submit once and forget about it. DMOZ are not known for their prompt approval of your website to their directory.
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  • MOGmartin
    said:

    Could anybody specify how can list my site on dmoz. Is there any benchmark or technique. please mention here I am waiting for your positive reply
    thanks


    possibly the handiest tip (ever) for getting indexed by DMOZ, (but before I reveal all, let me just say this):

    I think that DMOZ is possibly the most overrated, useless form of linkbuilding known to mankind. It used to be good, and by "used to be" I mean circa 1996 at the latest. Its not totally full of spam. I should know, I used to be an editor.

    Anyway: how to get listed in DMOZ in a few months:

    1) make sure your site is actually worthy.... seriously. not a rubbish site, something that genuinely deserves to be in its category.

    2) do NOT - and I repeat do NOT submit your site.... SERIOUSLY - DONT DO IT!!

    3) apply to be an editor.

    4) you have to fill in a questionaire, as to why you think you should be an editor, and what category you want to be in. In that questionaire, list three sites that should be in the category, but arent (tip: search google for them!)

    5) in the list of three sites, LIST YOUR OWN SITE.

    thats it, shockingly simple I know, but Ive had over 10 sites listed in DMOZ by doing exactly this. And now Im giving the trick away for free, because, as I mentioned before, I think the whole thing is a bit of a waste of time, and too many people fixate on it!!!
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  • dekomusic
    Thank you, i will try all of the above. Hope it works.
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  • webcreationuk
    I read that these days DMOZ isn't anymore such a great place that almost anyone must be, is that true?
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  • MOGmartin
    said:

    I read that these days DMOZ isn't anymore such a great place that almost anyone must be, is that true?


    in my opinion: dmoz is rubbish.

    just my opinion though.
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  • jhnrang
    These days there are talks that DMOZ has thousands of dead/useless links since lots of Geocity pages were listed and it no longer exist. So DMOZ is a skeleton now. :( Sad to say this.
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  • mr-owl
    Submitting to dmoz used to be useful but it's an old technique. As menj said - submit and leave it. Concentrate on other types of link building instead.
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  • ashtonfarell
    HI,

    The Open Directory Project or DMOZ is the most prominent website directory. It is basically an open content directory of worldwide web links. DMOZ is voluntarily maintained by different editors in all kinds of content category and niche. The scheme used by Open Directory Project in its site listings is the hierarchical ontology scheme. The Open Directory Project has been working well, except for the system failure and editing outage that happened in 2006. Today, the system is constantly upgraded and worked on to prevent the same incident from happening again.
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  • webcreationuk
    Ok, so Dmoz no more. :)
    Who are the substitutes than? A top 5 biggest directories maybe?
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  • MOGmartin
    I honestly dont feel that directory submission at all is worth it any more.

    If you go back in time five years, every link counted, and there was some variance for site niche, maybe +/-5% of link strenght, but in my estimation the niche correlation between site linking and linked site is now more like 95% of overall link strength,

    SO: if a site on your specific niche links to you its 20x (at least) more relevant to google than a link from a directory.

    arguably, and infact logically, google should ignore links from pretty much every web directory apart from *maybe* industry specific authority directories, and in that case the directories themselves would be a closed shop, not open for submission.
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  • jhnrang
    said:

    I honestly dont feel that directory submission at all is worth it any more.


    Don't agree with this point in totality - but don't blame you or others who no longer have faith in them.
    There has been so many people opening directories that - -- its now very hard to find a directory with genuine value.

    Due to the directory craze - lots of people just buy adomain, dump a database and open it -- take just few mins.
    Then they click on auto approve button and never care to really edit/review submitted sites and accept just about any site submitted. No wonder Google came down heavily on web directories couple of yrs back.

    Once they see thatthere is no gold mine in the business - they change their sites into blogs or other without even bothering to care about the commitments they have to site owners.

    I believe these days Google has learnt to differentiate between fly by the night directories and those with genuine commitments to the industry. I have written an article in on this subject covering some topics that concern web directories anddirectory submission -
    http://www.netcatalogue.org/web-directory-news/

    Ialsostill have beliefsin directories because my very personal blog - related toeducation has very very high SERPs on lot os keywords/phrases and I just used web directories to build links for it. It has high ranking - ahead of lots of PR8/9 university sites for keyword like reading habit, cognitive development of achild etc. etc.

    So, they arestill useful - provided one is very selected on which directory to submit to.
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  • MOGmartin
    said:


    ...I believe these days Google has learnt to differentiate between fly by the night directories and those with genuine commitments to the industry....


    to what industry is that? the online directory owner's industry?

    come one, that's total rubbish sorry!

    My point is that no directories these days are worth bothering with because they are by their very nature not sites of any contectual value to the web. If they are just listings of other websites, they are in essence pointless.

    Several years ago when the total number of links you had was paramount, you could do 10,000 directory submissions, and get about 3,000 to 4,000 backlinks in a month or so, that was very valuable then.

    It isnt any more as google totally discounts spammy looking links, and links from directories ARE spammy looking links!

    The caveat to this is very tightly niche focussed, well respected, manually built directories. But those directories probably dont even accept submission, as they are totally hand built.

    so: in my opinion, dmoz is dead, directories are dead.

    Unless they are really tightly segmented into a specific niche. And have good domain authority.
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  • jhnrang
    You may be right - but I'm talking about from my own experience with my personal blog ( I'm a real life teacher - so I post mostly on education :( )

    The blog gets around 71% of its traffic from search engines (though not much of traffic as I hardly find time for posts on it)- with only 130 links on GWMT account - 601 inlinks on Yahoo Siteexplorer. Most of those links are from FREE web directories and some from forums and blog-comments (no-follow).


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  • martin
    so I may be wrong here jhnrang, but I dont think that the keywords that you are listing are particularly tough to get ranked on. Infact the site that I see in P1 on google.com is an inner page, and a PR0 on top of that.

    Its my gut feeling that you would probably rank well for those keywords without the rubbish directory submissions in all honesty, purely on the strength of the content that you have on your website.

    If you were to ask me now if I wanted 1000 links from directories, or 10 unique articles about my chosen niche, well, I would choose the content any day of the week, I genuinely feel that its more valuable, than those links!

    On the other hand, if you were to offer me those same 10 unique articles, or just TWO links from respected sites on the same niche, well, Id take the links instead!

    Its all about prioritizing in your head what you feel is important for the ranking of your site. That does vary depending on the competition surrounding the term you are targeting, but not hugely.
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  • jhnrang
    Yes - I know - I have great contents - but I don't think I could have ranked that high without those links purely on the basis of weight of contents alone. A site must have few links - it does not matter where they come from !
    Also --yes keywords are not very competitive - but yet to rank ahead of PR7/8/9 sites like http://www.ctl.ua.edu/CTLStudyAids/StudySkillsFlyers/Reading/badreadinghabits.htm
    http://hcl.harvard.edu/research/guides/lamont_handouts/interrogatingtexts.html
    http://www.indiana.edu/~reading/ieo/bibs/lifelongreading.html
    that has exactly the same keywords ( reading habits in this case)

    literacytrust.org.uk
    http://www.rif.org/parents/tips/default.mspx

    it is not a child's play. As I mentioned have very few links from other sites - most of my do-follow links come from FREE web directories. Also the keyword (education blog is quite competitive) - and my site ranks inside top 3 for that too.

    Although not exhaustive and I am no seo -- I have documented the case study I did with the site here -
    http://www.newsitepromo.info/blog/

    So, my result made me come to the conclusion that -- although directories are not as valued as they were -- 4/5 years back, they still hold some values. :)
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  • webcreationuk
    That's also what I think: even though directories are not what they were used to be, getting listed in major niche ones means only benefits for a specific websites. My 2 cents. :)
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  • anushka
    DMOZ, known as open directory site. Can you give me idea, what do you mean by open directory?
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  • dekomusic
    I followed the tips but i was rejected as an editor. If you can believe it!! Someone volunteers to edit for free and they reject him.
    If you're interested in tennis there is an innovative website with a great Tennis Forum and many
    Tennis Matches dating from the 70's till 2010.
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  • MOGmartin
    said:

    I followed the tips but i was rejected as an editor. If you can believe it!! Someone volunteers to edit for free and they reject him.
    If you're interested in tennis there is an innovative website with a great Tennis Forum and many
    Tennis Matches dating from the 70's till 2010.

    Dont worry - you normally get rejected, but leave it a while and see if the sites get added, thats what normally happens to me!
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  • michaledoughlas
    It is basically an open content directory of worldwide web links. DMOZ is voluntarily maintained by different editors in all kinds of content category and niche. The scheme used by Open Directory Project in its site listings is the hierarchical ontology scheme...........
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  • chauhan
    said:

    It is basically an open content directory of worldwide web links. DMOZ is voluntarily maintained by different editors in all kinds of content category and niche. The scheme used by Open Directory Project in its site listings is the hierarchical ontology scheme...........


    Sorry but I don't find any techinque in the post ?
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  • Financial Templates
    I applied and got rejected. NO answer why, just a list of typical reasons. I really hope you are right that google doesn't value them so much any more... It's seems impossible to get in.
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  • vietseoguy
    said:

    Sorry but I don't find any techinque in the post ?


    Maybe he missed a question mark! :D I think Administrator's post in page 1 of this thread is what we should do to get listed in DMOZ.
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  • jonbey
    I never had any luck getting into DMOZ even though the site I submitted was better than the others there. I think that the mod in my section was deliberately ignoring me!
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  • linerrobert
    The most prominent directory is Open directory project or DMOZ. With worldwide web links, it’s simply an open content directory. In various content categories, DMOZ is maintained by different editors.
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  • meeaou
    If You have unique content than you must post in DMOZ
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  • h3sean
    Just submit to dmoz and then don't worry about it anymore. It will take quite a long while for you to be listed but then what can you do, right? :)
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  • damonebrice
    The strategy expended by clear Directory design in its site listings is the hierarchical ontology scheme.The clear Directory Project or DMOZ is the nearly prominent website directory. It is essentially an open message directory of worldwide web links. DMOZ is voluntarily held by different editors in all kinds of message category and niche.
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  • panks
    Frankly speaking....there is not any technique. Just submit and really forget about it. Sooner (not a case) or later you will come to know whether you are listed or not.
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  • elmerkit
    I have been also curious with dmoz since it boom the internet avenue, when i submitted my site before it immediate accepted it and posted. But now a days a lot of seo say it really hard to submit with dmoz, I believe there is no trick or tips on how to submit your site. Just make sure that your site has quality and appealing and your good to go.
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